In Press, Personal Communication

Just thought of another thing: how do we handle citations/references
of articles in press/submitted etc., and citations to persons as in
personal communication.

Johan–
http://www.johankool.nl/

Just thought of another thing: how do we handle citations/references
of articles in press/submitted etc.,

Good question. One of the problems we’re presented with is that bib
formats typically have no explicit support for this. In fact, I know of
no exceptions.

So one option – and probably the best one – is to not worry about it
in CSL?

and citations to persons as in
personal communication.

The way I have done it uses nothing special. I end up with titles
like “letter to Jane Doe”.

But if some reason you need to configure:

Smith, S. to J. Doe (1874) …

… then we need to put some more thought into it.

Bruce

Just thought of another thing: how do we handle citations/references
of articles in press/submitted etc.,

Good question. One of the problems we’re presented with is that bib
formats typically have no explicit support for this. In fact, I know of
no exceptions.

So one option – and probably the best one – is to not worry about it
in CSL?

That would be the easiest, but don’t we want CSL to be better than the
others! :wink:

I think that the personal communication is the less important one. In
cases I’ve encountered it it wasn’t added to the bibliography, only in
the text itself. E.g “The foo is known to be bar (John Doe, Pers.
comm.
).”

Much more common (in my experience that is) is for reference used to
articles that aren’t officially published yet (as it can take very
long for an article to be accepted).

We could add a to where it is understood that if a
reference has no status it doesn’t get printed and means that it is
all published and well. If the reference is found to have a status, it
gets printed.

...

(I hope I haven’t mixed up the latest path to the , but
you know what I mean…)

This has the benefit that all known information gets printed, e.g.
this could result in a reference such as “J. Doe (2006) The latest
about foo bar, Journal of Bars (In Press).”

If status is defined to have certain values (in-press|submitted|???)
we could use the localization feature for text to define how the
status should be written. No value means no status being added and
resulting in the references being formatted as normal.

I am aware that most bib formats don’t specify such a status field,
but I think they should. Your RDF could be the first! :wink: And it ain’t
to difficult to add it to other file formats (although perhaps again
the official file format, but those are already being used in a very
flexible way anyway).

Johan

OK then; a status property sounds sensible :slight_smile:

Bruce

My thought on the RDF schema is just to have “forthcoming” as a
subproperty of date. So to indicate a forthcoming article, you’d do:

<forthcoming>2007</forthcoming>

… and then change it to “issued” once it’s out.

Sound good?

I added the “status” field to CSL per your suggestion.

Bruce