CSL Discourse

EU project submission for legal citation styles in Europe


#1

Hello,

it’d been a very long time without working on CSL – hope everyone is doing fine! – when, a few days ago, I was contacted by an Italian colleague who is planing to apply for some EU founds for a project related to European legal citation styles.

The aim of the project is twofold:

  • provide an overview of citation styles of legal material in every European jurisdiction;

  • provide a set of corresponding CSL styles.

We are searching for possible academic partners (at least 2 for the initial submission, due in a week time).

I’m contacting you to see if you have any contact you could share with me.

Best,
Andrea


#2

Cool! The obvious person to contact would be @Frank_Bennett https://www.law.nagoya-u.ac.jp/en/directory/staff/Bennett_F.html who is a comparative law scholar himself, maintains juris-m, and citeproc-js. No one has spend more time thinking about automating legal citation than him. If he doesn’t have time, he’d probably have the names of some European colleagues who might be interested.


#3

Frank has been contacted by my colleague and he’s aware of the project – but seems to lack the contacts we need… European legal scholars in Universities, with some involvement in legal documentation and CSL.


#4

The only other ideas I’d have is to look at the people maintaining OSCOLA, who have been in touch with Zotero and seem very open to automation www.law.ox.ac.uk/oscola . There have been several people working on this in Germany https://www.offenenetze.de/2015/01/13/juristische-beitraege-mit-der-literaturverwaltung-zotero-einfuehrung-und-erfahrungsbericht/ and https://doi.org/10.7328/jurpcb20132812206 , but best I can tell they’re not academics but a judge and (now) a lawyer in private practice respectively.
I think @Philipp_Zumstein has helped some lawyers with citation styles recently though, so he may know?


#5

I don’t know more legal scholars with involvement in CSL, which is might be the most restrictive condition here. A quite detailed description for legal citations in Germany is from Stüber: https://www.niederle-media.de/Zitieren.pdf, but the author is AFAIK working at a ministry and I doubt that he using CSL or any reference management system.

However, maybe it would be possible to split your requirements among several persons in one institution. Indeed, as Sebastian mentioned, I helped some PhD students in law sciences recently to optimize a CSL style for their thesis. We started with an existing style, then they had some special requirements, which I then tried to implement in CSL. Or is it inevitable for your project that the legal experiences and CSL involvement have to come from the same person?


#6

“legal scholars with some involvement in CSL” is meant to be very broad (referring mostly to the CSL environment – like zotero, for instance). And yes, the requirements may be split, even among different institutions (and/or member state).

Many thanks for your useful suggestions and your kind attention.


#7

Andrea: Welcome back! (I’ve also been away for the past few months.)

Are you thinking of possibly an application in the next round? I can post to the Juris-M support lists to see if we can scare up interested parties in the EU domain.