csl title sorting

Is there a CSL style that is able to sort bibliographies by title
omitting articles such as the, a, le, la, etc.? If not, is there a
plan on what to do about that? In theory this could be fairly easily
scripted and localized.

Thanks,
Elena

Elena Razlogova wrote:

Is there a CSL style that is able to sort bibliographies by title
omitting articles such as the, a, le, la, etc.?

No.

If not, is there a plan on what to do about that?

No, in the sense I don’t recall ever talking about it.

In theory this could be fairly easily scripted and localized.

You’re right it should be easy, since it’s just a list of exclusion words.

How about we document it in the schema? Any specific ideas?

It could be something so simple as a note like …

when sorting on title, be sure to strip beginning words

like “a” and “the”.

… and leave it to implementors to worry about the details?

Bruce

Elena Razlogova wrote:

Is there a CSL style that is able to sort bibliographies by title
omitting articles such as the, a, le, la, etc.?

No.

If not, is there a plan on what to do about that?

No, in the sense I don’t recall ever talking about it.

In theory this could be fairly easily scripted and localized.

You’re right it should be easy, since it’s just a list of exclusion
words.

How about we document it in the schema? Any specific ideas?

It could be something so simple as a note like …

when sorting on title, be sure to strip beginning words

like “a” and “the”.

… and leave it to implementors to worry about the details?

That sounds fine.

But we’d have to use CSL localization files (which are the same in
Zotero and xbiblio) to enter the definite/indefinite articles for
various languages, right?

Elena