citation ids?

I just posted something on my blog about citation/record ids, which is
an issue that I think is going to become increasingly important.

http://netapps.muohio.edu/blogs/darcusb/darcusb/archives/2004/11/27/
citation-ids

Comments?

Bruce

Just a random example from Pubmed from our friends devoted to chemistry:
Studt2004LewisAdductsoftheSide-OnEnd-OnDinitrogen-BridgedComplex[{(NPN)Ta}(2)(mu-H)(2)(mu-eta(1):eta(2)-N(2))]withAlMe(3),GaMe(3),andB(C(6)F(5))(3):Synthesis,Structure,andSpectroscopicProperties

This may look a little contrived but this was actually the first hit
I’ve got from a Pubmed query for “nitrogen”. There are certainly
limits to the usability of including the title.

regards,
Markus

Bruce D’Arcus writes:>

I just posted something on my blog about citation/record ids, which is
an issue that I think is going to become increasingly important.

http://netapps.muohio.edu/blogs/darcusb/darcusb/archives/2004/11/27/
citation-ids

Comments?

Bruce

Yeah, I thought of that. OTOH, you could always just grab the first
four words of a title.

Blog comments pointed out other issues, though. I really don’t think
there’s an ideal way; that all have compromises. Still, I wonder if a
consensus could emerge about best practical approach?

Bruce

What about internationalization issues? Would the title be in original
language (for example, chinese letters)?

Christian

Bruce D’Arcus wrote:>

I just posted something on my blog about citation/record ids, which is
an issue that I think is going to become increasingly important.

I’ve mentioned this before, but I don’t think /any/ attempt to create an
ID that has embedded meaning will work, because any attempt to do that
in the past has failed or clashed (ISBNs, UPCs, etc.). I also don’t want
IDs that are more than 60 characters long, as they’re inevitably loaded
in a URL, and that makes the URL difficult to pass around.–
Morbus Iff ( you, me, eropuri? aawwwwwWWWw yYeahahhHHAhhh )
Technical: http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/au/779
Culture: http://www.disobey.com/ and http://www.gamegrene.com/
icq: 2927491 / aim: akaMorbus / yahoo: morbus_iff / jabber.org: morbus

Still, I don’t know how a long string of numbers
generated by individual dbs helps though.

Someone may want to poke around in the RDF/SW world for this one. They
have very similar problems: if I, myself, give me a URI of dc:morbusiff,
there is nothing stopping another person, unknown to be, calling me
dc:morbus_iff in their application. How could the RDF/SW ever function
with these statements that refer to the same thing, only with different
IDs? The only relevant response I got back was a conversion router: feed
it one ID, and get back a list of all relevant IDs that are equivalent,
very similar to the OCLC’s xISBN service:

http://www.oclc.org/research/projects/xisbn/default.htm--
Morbus Iff ( evil is my sour flavor )
Technical: http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/au/779
Culture: http://www.disobey.com/ and http://www.gamegrene.com/
icq: 2927491 / aim: akaMorbus / yahoo: morbus_iff / jabber.org: morbus