Names formatting, with initialization

Here is a test of the abbreviation of secondary names, with a cyrillic
name in the mix. If someone familiar with East European citation
styles could take a look and check whether the handling should be
altered to make this useful, it would be a great help.

// book::seven-names-1
{
“type”: “book”,
“author”: [
{ “name”:“Чайковский, Пётр Ильич” },
{ “name”:“van Winkle, Rip” },
{ “name”:“我妻, 栄” },
{ “name”:“Thucydides, Carl, III” },
{ “name”:“Tokugawa, Ieyasu !” },
{ “name”:“Ministry of Fear, Loathing and Error !!” },
{ “name”:“Prince” }
],
“issued”: “2000”,
“title”: “Our Story”
}

// names/test022.txt
{
“citation”:[ {“source”:“book::seven-names-1”} ],
“testof”: “citation”,
“csl”:"

", "result":"П.И. ЧАЙКОВСКИЙ, R. van WINKLE, 我妻栄, C. THUCYDIDES III, TOKUGAWA Ieyasu, et al." }

Frank

I can’t help on that one, but otherwise the test looks right.

Of course, this examples throws in a major issue:most styles expect
names in the form of the output script. In the styles I’ve seen that
mix, say, Kanji and English, you’d have all Kanji names transliterated
by default, with the original Kanji following.

We have no way to represent this in CSL, and we probably should (just
as we do with things like titles).

Bruce

The Cyrillic is indeed correct. Elena

One other thing, just so you keep it in my view …

   { "name":"van Winkle, Rip" },

How do you deal with cases where the articular are non-sorting? E.g.
Alexander von Humbolt" sorts on Humboldt I believe. And I’m not sure,
but I imagine output could be:

Humbolt, Alexander, von

… or something weird like that (or maybe the von gets dropped; not
sure). And the rules vary by locale, and by name (I once talked about
this with Eric van der Vlist, who treats the entire last three names
as a family name (and sorts on van).

Johan would probably know, but he’s busy with other things.

Bruce

One other thing, just so you keep it in my view …

   { "name":"van Winkle, Rip" },

How do you deal with cases where the articular are non-sorting? E.g.
Alexander von Humbolt" sorts on Humboldt I believe. And I’m not sure,
but I imagine output could be:

Humbolt, Alexander, von

… or something weird like that (or maybe the von gets dropped; not
sure). And the rules vary by locale, and by name (I once talked about
this with Eric van der Vlist, who treats the entire last three names
as a family name (and sorts on van).

Johan would probably know, but he’s busy with other things.

This will be all kinds of entertaining. For the moment I’ll just
leave it as it is, but you’re right, these need to be handled
correctly. The articular is parsed to a separate term, so it will
just be a matter of coding up the rules when we decide what they
should be.

Frank