Implementation questions SAA style

CSL Development
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The SAA style (http://www.saa.org/Publications/StyleGuide/styleGuide.pdf) is
quite a tricky one. Some questions/remarks about things which I was unable
to implement:

  • In an entry in the bibliography, the authors should be listed separately
    on the first line (see e.g. page 24 of the guide), and the rest on a new
    line which indents. I discovered that I could use the 'display=“block”'
    attribute for the authors-output, but when hanging-indent is set to true,
    this also indents the author-output (it should be flush with the left). Is
    there a way to force a new line, while the first line doesn’t indent, and
    the second does? An example that shows the problem:

  • In case there are multiple authors with the same name, the style wants the
    authors to be distinguished by including only their first initials: “Note:
    When two authors with the same surname and the same year published are
    cited, the first initial of each author is added to prevent ambiguity.”
    (page 16)
    I guess that if these initials also are the same, more initials should be
    shown, but that case isn’t mentioned. I guess this can’t currently be
    implemented in a CSL style with “disambiguate-add-givenname”.

  • If two different authors with the same surname published in different
    years, the style does not want their names to be distinguished (so it should
    be just “(Smith 1982; Smith 1987)”, page 16). If
    "disambiguate-add-givenname" is set to true though, initials/first names are
    added even when the year of issue is different.

Rintze

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  • In an entry in the bibliography, the authors should be listed
    separately on the first line (see e.g. page 24 of the guide), and
    the rest on a new line which indents. I discovered that I could use
    the ‘display=“block”’ attribute for the authors-output, but when
    hanging-indent is set to true, this also indents the author-output
    (it should be flush with the left). Is there a way to force a new
    line, while the first line doesn’t indent, and the second does? An
    example that shows the problem:

I’ll change this behavior in Zotero. Wasn’t quite sure whether to have
the hanging indent or not when I implemented this.

  • In case there are multiple authors with the same name, the style
    wants the authors to be distinguished by including only their first
    initials: “Note: When two authors with the same surname and the same
    year published are cited, the first initial of each author is added
    to prevent ambiguity.” (page 16)
    I guess that if these initials also are the same, more initials
    should be shown, but that case isn’t mentioned. I guess this can’t
    currently be implemented in a CSL style with “disambiguate-add-
    givenname”.

  • If two different authors with the same surname published in
    different years, the style does not want their names to be
    distinguished (so it should be just “(Smith 1982; Smith 1987)”, page
    16). If “disambiguate-add-givenname” is set to true though, initials/
    first names are added even when the year of issue is different.

We could add a few more options to “disambiguate-add-givenname” to
handle these kinds of cases.

Simon

3

I don’t exactly understand the original question, but I suggest we
formalize any change of this sort with comments in the schema. What
would this rule be?

Bruce

4

I don’t exactly understand the original question, but I suggest we
formalize any change of this sort with comments in the schema. What
would this rule be?

After my first email on this mailing list on this topic, I realized it is
just a problem within Zotero. I think the schema is just fine. I posted some
more info here:

Rintze