# Punctuation question

**URL:** <https://discourse.citationstyles.org/t/punctuation-question/903>\
**Category:** CSL Development\
**Created:** [November 2, 2010, 3:17pm UTC](https://discourse.citationstyles.org/t/punctuation-question/903 "2010-11-02T15:17:01Z")\
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**Author:** ![Frank\_Bennett](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex029/user_avatar/discourse.citationstyles.org/frank_bennett/32/198_2.png) [@Frank\_Bennett](https://discourse.citationstyles.org/u/Frank_Bennett)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2010, 3:17pm UTC](https://discourse.citationstyles.org/t/punctuation-question/903/1 "2010-11-02T15:17:01Z")

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Hi, all.

Carles Pina and I have been tidying up some punctuation issues, and we  
could use some style guru feedback on a case that’s come up. In  
ieee.csl, it looks sort of like this:

[1]

 P.G. Zimbardo, “Does  
Psychology make a significant difference in our lives?” _American  
Psychologist_, vol. 59, Jan. 2004, pp. 339-351.

The issue is with the characters around the “… lives? …” question  
mark. The style ordinarily puts a comma after the title, followed by  
the quote. citeproc-js is currently quashing the comma in this case.  
It was leaving it in place until a couple of days ago:

[1]

 P.G. Zimbardo, “Does  
Psychology make a significant difference in our lives?,” _American  
Psychologist_, vol. 59, Jan. 2004, pp. 339-351.

Is there a general convention on this? Failing that, are there views  
on which looks more correct?

Frank

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**Author:** ![Simon\_Kornblith](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ce7236/32.png) [@Simon\_Kornblith](https://discourse.citationstyles.org/u/Simon_Kornblith)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2010, 3:39pm UTC](https://discourse.citationstyles.org/t/punctuation-question/903/2 "2010-11-02T15:39:46Z")

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Looks like the latter is correct in CMoS 16th edition, but the former is correct in CMoS 15th edition:

> **[The Chicago Manual of Style, 17th Edition](https://www.chicagomanualofstyle.org/about16_rules.html)**
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> Find it. Write it. Cite it. The Chicago Manual of Style Online is the venerable, time-tested guide to style, usage, and grammar in an accessible online format. ¶ It is the indispensable reference for writers, editors, proofreaders, indexers,...

Ugh.

Simon