# Proposal: Retire duplicate "Harvard" styles harvard1.csl & harvard7de.csl

**URL:** <https://discourse.citationstyles.org/t/proposal-retire-duplicate-harvard-styles-harvard1-csl-harvard7de-csl/1433>\
**Category:** CSL Development\
**Created:** [January 25, 2016, 4:24am UTC](https://discourse.citationstyles.org/t/proposal-retire-duplicate-harvard-styles-harvard1-csl-harvard7de-csl/1433 "2016-01-25T04:24:33Z")\
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**Author:** ![Sebastian\_Karcher](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex029/user_avatar/discourse.citationstyles.org/sebastian_karcher/32/176_2.png) [@Sebastian\_Karcher](https://discourse.citationstyles.org/u/Sebastian_Karcher)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2016, 4:24am UTC](https://discourse.citationstyles.org/t/proposal-retire-duplicate-harvard-styles-harvard1-csl-harvard7de-csl/1433/1 "2016-01-25T04:24:33Z")

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Hi Carles and others,

I’m coming back to this now, partly because we’re getting a ton of "error"  
reports from Mendeley users about Harvard1… I’d love for it to be removed  
as a default option for Mendeley entirely, since people misunderstand this  
so badly. If you want a Harvard default style, you could either go with  
Cite them Right or, as Zotero does, with elsevier-harvard.

That’s not actually why I’m writing, though. I’d like to go ahead and make  
the change you propose above, i.e. make Harvard1 a dependent style, but  
unless there are objections, I’d like to map it to harvard-cite-them-right,  
which is the closes we have to a “standard” among UK Harvards and our style  
is in very good shape, better than e.g. the Anglia-Ruskin one. The downside  
is that the guide isn’t publicly available (though I own a copy).

Absent any objections, I’ll do this next weekend. (And please do consider  
removing Harvard1 as a default…)

Sebastian

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**Author:** ![Carles\_Pina](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/dbc845/32.png) [@Carles\_Pina](https://discourse.citationstyles.org/u/Carles_Pina)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2016, 11:38am UTC](https://discourse.citationstyles.org/t/proposal-retire-duplicate-harvard-styles-harvard1-csl-harvard7de-csl/1433/2 "2016-01-25T11:38:28Z")

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Hello,

Making harvard1 a dependent style on the other one works for us, thank you!