# new zotero styles page

**URL:** <https://discourse.citationstyles.org/t/new-zotero-styles-page/1008>\
**Category:** CSL Development\
**Created:** [May 14, 2011, 6:18pm UTC](https://discourse.citationstyles.org/t/new-zotero-styles-page/1008 "2011-05-14T18:18:33Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Dan\_Stillman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ecb155/32.png) [@Dan\_Stillman](https://discourse.citationstyles.org/u/Dan_Stillman)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2011, 6:18pm UTC](https://discourse.citationstyles.org/t/new-zotero-styles-page/1008/1 "2011-05-14T18:18:33Z")

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By popular demand[1], I’ve updated the Zotero styles page to use CSL 1.0  
styles from GitHub, and I’ve taken the opportunity to add some new  
search features, with the ability to filter by name, dependent status,  
citation format, and field.

Temporary URL for testing:

[http://www.zotero.org/styles-new](http://www.zotero.org/styles-new)

A few notes:

1. Style previews are forthcoming—just waiting on some improvements to  
citeproc-node. Do we have any sample data that covers more than the data  
used on the old styles page?

2. For now it’s pulling from the GitHub repo every 30 minutes. Given how  
efficient a git pull appears to be I’m sure it’d be fine to do it more  
frequently, but I can also set up an update URL that can be called from  
a GitHub post-commit hook to make updates instantaneous.

3. We’ll be replacing the old styles page with this one within a few  
days. At that point, after Rintze does a final merge, we’ll remove the  
’csl’ directory from Zotero SVN and archive the old styles page at  
/styles-old so that users of older clients can still find CSL 0.8 styles  
if need be.

Let me know if you run into any problems with the new page or have ideas  
for improvements.

- Dan

[1] [https://github.com/citation-style-language/styles/issues/11](https://github.com/citation-style-language/styles/issues/11)

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**Author:** ![Bruce\_D\_Arcus1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4bbf92/32.png) [@Bruce\_D\_Arcus1](https://discourse.citationstyles.org/u/Bruce_D_Arcus1)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2011, 7:23pm UTC](https://discourse.citationstyles.org/t/new-zotero-styles-page/1008/2 "2011-05-14T19:23:45Z")

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> By popular demand[1], I’ve updated the Zotero styles page to use CSL 1.0  
> styles from GitHub, and I’ve taken the opportunity to add some new  
> search features, with the ability to filter by name, dependent status,  
> citation format, and field.

Nice! This ought to make it much easier to find styles.

Suggestion: any chance you can put this code in it’s own repo on  
github, such that ti’s easy for I and others to make suggested changes  
(say to the CSS)?

> Temporary URL for testing:
> 
> [http://www.zotero.org/styles-new](http://www.zotero.org/styles-new)
> 
> A few notes:
> 
> 1. Style previews are forthcoming—just waiting on some improvements to  
> citeproc-node. Do we have any sample data that covers more than the data  
> used on the old styles page?

Yes, let me get back to you on this. Essentially we need to back this  
issue up with some JSON sample data.

[https://github.com/citation-style-language/styles/issues/4](https://github.com/citation-style-language/styles/issues/4)

> 1. For now it’s pulling from the GitHub repo every 30 minutes. Given how  
> efficient a git pull appears to be I’m sure it’d be fine to do it more  
> frequently, but I can also set up an update URL that can be called from  
> a GitHub post-commit hook to make updates instantaneous.
> 
> 2. We’ll be replacing the old styles page with this one within a few  
> days. At that point, after Rintze does a final merge, we’ll remove the  
> ‘csl’ directory from Zotero SVN and archive the old styles page at  
> /styles-old so that users of older clients can still find CSL 0.8 styles  
> if need be.
> 
> Let me know if you run into any problems with the new page or have ideas  
> for improvements.

OK, thanks.

While we’re on this, do you have any thoughts on two bigger,  
longer-term, issues?

1. versioning - [settle on conventions for versioning · Issue #7 · citation-style-language/styles · GitHub](https://github.com/citation-style-language/styles/issues/7)

2. ids - [settle on new base uri for styles, update ids accordingly · Issue #2 · citation-style-language/styles · GitHub](https://github.com/citation-style-language/styles/issues/2)

So far I haven’t really done anything on either.

Bruce

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**Author:** ![Bruce\_D\_Arcus1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4bbf92/32.png) [@Bruce\_D\_Arcus1](https://discourse.citationstyles.org/u/Bruce_D_Arcus1)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2011, 7:25pm UTC](https://discourse.citationstyles.org/t/new-zotero-styles-page/1008/3 "2011-05-14T19:25:42Z")

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Oh, one other thing:

I’ve always thought the “show dependent styles” checkbox a little odd  
for a general, non-technical, user.

If we need to keep it, might it be valuable to add a little  
description somehow that makes clear its purpose?

Bruce

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**Author:** ![Rintze\_Zelle](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex029/user_avatar/discourse.citationstyles.org/rintze_zelle/32/175_2.png) [@Rintze\_Zelle](https://discourse.citationstyles.org/u/Rintze_Zelle)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2011, 8:12pm UTC](https://discourse.citationstyles.org/t/new-zotero-styles-page/1008/4 "2011-05-14T20:12:36Z")

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I’m getting a blank page with “Style not found” when loading that page.

Rintze

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**Author:** ![Frank\_Bennett](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex029/user_avatar/discourse.citationstyles.org/frank_bennett/32/198_2.png) [@Frank\_Bennett](https://discourse.citationstyles.org/u/Frank_Bennett)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2011, 8:27pm UTC](https://discourse.citationstyles.org/t/new-zotero-styles-page/1008/5 "2011-05-14T20:27:08Z")

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> > Temporary URL for testing:
> > 
> > [http://www.zotero.org/styles-new](http://www.zotero.org/styles-new)
> 
> I’m getting a blank page with “Style not found” when loading that page.

Me too.

Frank

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**Author:** ![Dan\_Stillman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ecb155/32.png) [@Dan\_Stillman](https://discourse.citationstyles.org/u/Dan_Stillman)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2011, 8:32pm UTC](https://discourse.citationstyles.org/t/new-zotero-styles-page/1008/6 "2011-05-14T20:32:31Z")

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Fixed. Sorry about that.

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**Author:** ![Carles\_Pina\_i\_Estany](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/d6d6ee/32.png) [@Carles\_Pina\_i\_Estany](https://discourse.citationstyles.org/u/Carles_Pina_i_Estany)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2011, 8:32pm UTC](https://discourse.citationstyles.org/t/new-zotero-styles-page/1008/7 "2011-05-14T20:32:54Z")

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Hi,On May/15/2011, Frank Bennett wrote:

> On Sun, May 15, 2011 at 5:12 AM, Rintze Zelle \<@Rintze\_Zelle\> wrote:
> 
> > On Sat, May 14, 2011 at 2:18 PM, Dan Stillman \<@Dan\_Stillman\> wrote:
> > 
> > > Temporary URL for testing:
> > > 
> > > [http://www.zotero.org/styles-new](http://www.zotero.org/styles-new)
> > 
> > I’m getting a blank page with “Style not found” when loading that page.
> 
> Me too.

not me, I get now and 1 hour ago the correct page.

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**Author:** ![Rintze\_Zelle](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex029/user_avatar/discourse.citationstyles.org/rintze_zelle/32/175_2.png) [@Rintze\_Zelle](https://discourse.citationstyles.org/u/Rintze_Zelle)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2011, 8:53pm UTC](https://discourse.citationstyles.org/t/new-zotero-styles-page/1008/8 "2011-05-14T20:53:55Z")

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> > By popular demand[1], I’ve updated the Zotero styles page to use CSL 1.0  
> > styles from GitHub, and I’ve taken the opportunity to add some new  
> > search features, with the ability to filter by name, dependent status,  
> > citation format, and field.

Now that I see the page: awesome! Thanks a million.

> Suggestion: any chance you can put this code in it’s own repo on  
> github, such that ti’s easy for I and others to make suggested changes  
> (say to the CSS)?

+1. I like the new search functionality, but it would be nice if the search  
box would take up less vertical space.

> > 1. We’ll be replacing the old styles page with this one within a few  
> > days. At that point, after Rintze does a final merge, we’ll remove the  
> > ‘csl’ directory from Zotero SVN and archive the old styles page at  
> > /styles-old so that users of older clients can still find CSL 0.8 styles  
> > if need be.

Great.

Rintze

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**Author:** ![Rintze\_Zelle](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex029/user_avatar/discourse.citationstyles.org/rintze_zelle/32/175_2.png) [@Rintze\_Zelle](https://discourse.citationstyles.org/u/Rintze_Zelle)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2011, 9:00pm UTC](https://discourse.citationstyles.org/t/new-zotero-styles-page/1008/9 "2011-05-14T21:00:06Z")

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Maybe a “Only show unique styles (this hides dependent CSL styles)” checkbox  
that is unchecked by default?

Rintze

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**Author:** ![Frank\_Bennett](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex029/user_avatar/discourse.citationstyles.org/frank_bennett/32/198_2.png) [@Frank\_Bennett](https://discourse.citationstyles.org/u/Frank_Bennett)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2011, 9:40pm UTC](https://discourse.citationstyles.org/t/new-zotero-styles-page/1008/10 "2011-05-14T21:40:30Z")

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> By popular demand[1], I’ve updated the Zotero styles page to use CSL 1.0  
> styles from GitHub, and I’ve taken the opportunity to add some new  
> search features, with the ability to filter by name, dependent status,  
> citation format, and field.
> 
> Temporary URL for testing:
> 
> [http://www.zotero.org/styles-new](http://www.zotero.org/styles-new)
> 
> A few notes:
> 
> 1. Style previews are forthcoming—just waiting on some improvements to  
> citeproc-node. Do we have any sample data that covers more than the data  
> used on the old styles page?
> 
> 2. For now it’s pulling from the GitHub repo every 30 minutes. Given how  
> efficient a git pull appears to be I’m sure it’d be fine to do it more  
> frequently, but I can also set up an update URL that can be called from  
> a GitHub post-commit hook to make updates instantaneous.
> 
> 3. We’ll be replacing the old styles page with this one within a few  
> days. At that point, after Rintze does a final merge, we’ll remove the  
> ‘csl’ directory from Zotero SVN and archive the old styles page at  
> /styles-old so that users of older clients can still find CSL 0.8 styles  
> if need be.
> 
> Let me know if you run into any problems with the new page or have ideas  
> for improvements.

Nice! Works like a charm here.

One very small niggle: the fixed page width is slightly larger than  
the display on my tiny netbook (1024x600). It doesn’t affect usability  
at all, but the “Loading” message is only partially visible without  
scrolling laterally.

Thanks a lot for this!

Frank

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**Author:** ![Rintze\_Zelle](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex029/user_avatar/discourse.citationstyles.org/rintze_zelle/32/175_2.png) [@Rintze\_Zelle](https://discourse.citationstyles.org/u/Rintze_Zelle)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2011, 9:55pm UTC](https://discourse.citationstyles.org/t/new-zotero-styles-page/1008/11 "2011-05-14T21:55:54Z")

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For example, while not as flexible as the current clickable labels, two  
dropdown menus (“Field” and “Citation Format”) would take up much less  
space.

RintzeOn Sat, May 14, 2011 at 4:53 PM, Rintze Zelle \<@Rintze\_Zelle\>wrote:

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**Author:** ![Bruce\_D\_Arcus1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4bbf92/32.png) [@Bruce\_D\_Arcus1](https://discourse.citationstyles.org/u/Bruce_D_Arcus1)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2011, 10:00pm UTC](https://discourse.citationstyles.org/t/new-zotero-styles-page/1008/12 "2011-05-14T22:00:46Z")

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What happens if you want to search multiple fields?

> > I like the new search functionality, but it would be nice if the search  
> > box

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**Author:** ![Rintze\_Zelle](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex029/user_avatar/discourse.citationstyles.org/rintze_zelle/32/175_2.png) [@Rintze\_Zelle](https://discourse.citationstyles.org/u/Rintze_Zelle)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2011, 10:03pm UTC](https://discourse.citationstyles.org/t/new-zotero-styles-page/1008/13 "2011-05-14T22:03:07Z")

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You’d be out of luck. The ability to show more search results might be worth  
it, though, especially on small screens.

Rintze

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**Author:** ![Dan\_Stillman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ecb155/32.png) [@Dan\_Stillman](https://discourse.citationstyles.org/u/Dan_Stillman)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2011, 10:05pm UTC](https://discourse.citationstyles.org/t/new-zotero-styles-page/1008/14 "2011-05-14T22:05:10Z")

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I’ve renamed the checkbox to “Show only unique styles” and added a  
tooltip that explains it a little bit more.

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**Author:** ![Dan\_Stillman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ecb155/32.png) [@Dan\_Stillman](https://discourse.citationstyles.org/u/Dan_Stillman)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2011, 10:07pm UTC](https://discourse.citationstyles.org/t/new-zotero-styles-page/1008/15 "2011-05-14T22:07:23Z")

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I’m not sure why it would’ve been cutting off at 1024px unless you had  
page zoom bumped up, but the search pane will now shrink with the page  
width.

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**Author:** ![Frank\_Bennett](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex029/user_avatar/discourse.citationstyles.org/frank_bennett/32/198_2.png) [@Frank\_Bennett](https://discourse.citationstyles.org/u/Frank_Bennett)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2011, 10:15pm UTC](https://discourse.citationstyles.org/t/new-zotero-styles-page/1008/16 "2011-05-14T22:15:14Z")

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> > Nice! Works like a charm here.
> > 
> > One very small niggle: the fixed page width is slightly larger than  
> > the display on my tiny netbook (1024x600). It doesn’t affect usability  
> > at all, but the “Loading” message is only partially visible without  
> > scrolling laterally.
> 
> I’m not sure why it would’ve been cutting off at 1024px unless you had  
> page zoom bumped up, but the search pane will now shrink with the page  
> width.

It probably was zoomed a bit. Age apparently affects both eyesight and  
memory. 🙂 Looks great now.

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**Author:** ![Dan\_Stillman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ecb155/32.png) [@Dan\_Stillman](https://discourse.citationstyles.org/u/Dan_Stillman)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2011, 10:17pm UTC](https://discourse.citationstyles.org/t/new-zotero-styles-page/1008/17 "2011-05-14T22:17:38Z")

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I recognize that not everyone views these things on a 30" monitor, and  
the search pane could perhaps be a little more compact, but vertical  
space is cheap. What’s wrong with scrolling?

It’s certainly not worth making the page more awkward to use and less  
flexible. And due to the way the tags work, you gain vertical space as  
soon as you select one.

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**Author:** ![Dan\_Stillman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ecb155/32.png) [@Dan\_Stillman](https://discourse.citationstyles.org/u/Dan_Stillman)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2011, 10:36pm UTC](https://discourse.citationstyles.org/t/new-zotero-styles-page/1008/18 "2011-05-14T22:36:12Z")

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A screenshot from Bruce suggests that the search box isn’t necessarily  
being rendered properly everywhere.

This is what it should look like:

[http://www.zotero.org/styles-files/screenshot.png](http://www.zotero.org/styles-files/screenshot.png)

If it doesn’t look like that for you, let me know your OS and browser  
version.

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**Author:** ![Frank\_Bennett](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex029/user_avatar/discourse.citationstyles.org/frank_bennett/32/198_2.png) [@Frank\_Bennett](https://discourse.citationstyles.org/u/Frank_Bennett)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2011, 10:43pm UTC](https://discourse.citationstyles.org/t/new-zotero-styles-page/1008/19 "2011-05-14T22:43:53Z")

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> > [http://www.zotero.org/styles-new](http://www.zotero.org/styles-new)
> 
> A screenshot from Bruce suggests that the search box isn’t necessarily  
> being rendered properly everywhere.
> 
> This is what it should look like:
> 
> [http://www.zotero.org/styles-files/screenshot.png](http://www.zotero.org/styles-files/screenshot.png)
> 
> If it doesn’t look like that for you, let me know your OS and browser  
> version.

In Firefox 4, Linux Ubuntu 10.04, it seems to match the screenshot here.  
In Google Chrome the appearance is also the same, but without the  
placeholder text.

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**Author:** ![Peter\_Hedlund](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ce7236/32.png) [@Peter\_Hedlund](https://discourse.citationstyles.org/u/Peter_Hedlund)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2011, 10:46pm UTC](https://discourse.citationstyles.org/t/new-zotero-styles-page/1008/20 "2011-05-14T22:46:41Z")

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Firefox 4.0.1, Kubuntu 11.04:

Citation Formats: and the left-most button (author-date) partly cover the text  
entry field.

Would it be too costly to make the style list a table so that Install and Last  
updated become vertically aligned?

Thanks,  
Peter

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