# EU project submission for legal citation styles in Europe

**URL:** <https://discourse.citationstyles.org/t/eu-project-submission-for-legal-citation-styles-in-europe/1483>\
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**Created:** [October 8, 2018, 11:51am UTC](https://discourse.citationstyles.org/t/eu-project-submission-for-legal-citation-styles-in-europe/1483 "2018-10-08T11:51:35Z")\
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**Author:** ![Andrea\_Rossato1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e47774/32.png) [@Andrea\_Rossato1](https://discourse.citationstyles.org/u/Andrea_Rossato1)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2018, 11:51am UTC](https://discourse.citationstyles.org/t/eu-project-submission-for-legal-citation-styles-in-europe/1483/1 "2018-10-08T11:51:35Z")

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Hello,

it’d been a very long time without working on CSL – hope everyone is doing fine! – when, a few days ago, I was contacted by an Italian colleague who is planing to apply for some EU founds for a project related to European legal citation styles.

The aim of the project is twofold:

- provide an overview of citation styles of legal material in every European jurisdiction;

- provide a set of corresponding CSL styles.

We are searching for possible academic partners (at least 2 for the initial submission, due in a week time).

I’m contacting you to see if you have any contact you could share with me.

Best,  
Andrea

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**Author:** ![Sebastian\_Karcher](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex029/user_avatar/discourse.citationstyles.org/sebastian_karcher/32/176_2.png) [@Sebastian\_Karcher](https://discourse.citationstyles.org/u/Sebastian_Karcher)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2018, 12:14pm UTC](https://discourse.citationstyles.org/t/eu-project-submission-for-legal-citation-styles-in-europe/1483/2 "2018-10-08T12:14:26Z")

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Cool! The obvious person to contact would be @Frank_Bennett [https://www.law.nagoya-u.ac.jp/en/directory/staff/Bennett\_F.html](https://www.law.nagoya-u.ac.jp/en/directory/staff/Bennett_F.html) who is a comparative law scholar himself, maintains juris-m, and citeproc-js. No one has spend more time thinking about automating legal citation than him. If he doesn’t have time, he’d probably have the names of some European colleagues who might be interested.

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**Author:** ![Andrea\_Rossato1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e47774/32.png) [@Andrea\_Rossato1](https://discourse.citationstyles.org/u/Andrea_Rossato1)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2018, 1:40pm UTC](https://discourse.citationstyles.org/t/eu-project-submission-for-legal-citation-styles-in-europe/1483/3 "2018-10-08T13:40:01Z")

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Frank has been contacted by my colleague and he’s aware of the project – but seems to lack the contacts we need… European legal scholars in Universities, with some involvement in legal documentation and CSL.

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**Author:** ![Sebastian\_Karcher](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex029/user_avatar/discourse.citationstyles.org/sebastian_karcher/32/176_2.png) [@Sebastian\_Karcher](https://discourse.citationstyles.org/u/Sebastian_Karcher)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2018, 2:32pm UTC](https://discourse.citationstyles.org/t/eu-project-submission-for-legal-citation-styles-in-europe/1483/4 "2018-10-08T14:32:16Z")

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The only other ideas I’d have is to look at the people maintaining OSCOLA, who have been in touch with Zotero and seem very open to automation [www.law.ox.ac.uk/oscola](http://www.law.ox.ac.uk/oscola) . There have been several people working on this in Germany [https://www.offenenetze.de/2015/01/13/juristische-beitraege-mit-der-literaturverwaltung-zotero-einfuehrung-und-erfahrungsbericht/](https://www.offenenetze.de/2015/01/13/juristische-beitraege-mit-der-literaturverwaltung-zotero-einfuehrung-und-erfahrungsbericht/) and [https://doi.org/10.7328/jurpcb20132812206](https://doi.org/10.7328/jurpcb20132812206) , but best I can tell they’re not academics but a judge and (now) a lawyer in private practice respectively.  
I think @Philipp_Zumstein has helped some lawyers with citation styles recently though, so he may know?

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**Author:** ![Philipp\_Zumstein](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/a9a28c/32.png) [@Philipp\_Zumstein](https://discourse.citationstyles.org/u/Philipp_Zumstein)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2018, 6:30pm UTC](https://discourse.citationstyles.org/t/eu-project-submission-for-legal-citation-styles-in-europe/1483/5 "2018-10-08T18:30:07Z")

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> [@Andrea\_Rossato1](#):
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> we need… European legal scholars in Universities, with some involvement in legal documentation and CSL.

I don’t know more legal scholars with involvement in CSL, which is might be the most restrictive condition here. A quite detailed description for legal citations in Germany is from Stüber: [https://www.niederle-media.de/Zitieren.pdf](https://www.niederle-media.de/Zitieren.pdf), but the author is AFAIK working at a ministry and I doubt that he using CSL or any reference management system.

However, maybe it would be possible to split your requirements among several persons in one institution. Indeed, as Sebastian mentioned, I helped some PhD students in law sciences recently to optimize a CSL style for their thesis. We started with an existing style, then they had some special requirements, which I then tried to implement in CSL. Or is it inevitable for your project that the legal experiences and CSL involvement have to come from the same person?

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**Author:** ![Andrea\_Rossato1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e47774/32.png) [@Andrea\_Rossato1](https://discourse.citationstyles.org/u/Andrea_Rossato1)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2018, 7:01am UTC](https://discourse.citationstyles.org/t/eu-project-submission-for-legal-citation-styles-in-europe/1483/6 "2018-10-09T07:01:21Z")

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“legal scholars with some involvement in CSL” is meant to be very broad (referring mostly to the CSL environment – like zotero, for instance). And yes, the requirements may be split, even among different institutions (and/or member state).

Many thanks for your useful suggestions and your kind attention.

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**Author:** ![Frank\_Bennett](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex029/user_avatar/discourse.citationstyles.org/frank_bennett/32/198_2.png) [@Frank\_Bennett](https://discourse.citationstyles.org/u/Frank_Bennett)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2019, 12:44am UTC](https://discourse.citationstyles.org/t/eu-project-submission-for-legal-citation-styles-in-europe/1483/7 "2019-03-06T00:44:13Z")

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Andrea: Welcome back! (I’ve also been away for the past few months.)

Are you thinking of possibly an application in the next round? I can post to the Juris-M support lists to see if we can scare up interested parties in the EU domain.