# Embedded CSL fields in Mendeley Word & OO documents

**URL:** <https://discourse.citationstyles.org/t/embedded-csl-fields-in-mendeley-word-oo-documents/968>\
**Category:** CSL Development\
**Created:** [March 7, 2011, 11:36am UTC](https://discourse.citationstyles.org/t/embedded-csl-fields-in-mendeley-word-oo-documents/968 "2011-03-07T11:36:50Z")\
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**Author:** ![Bruce\_D\_Arcus1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4bbf92/32.png) [@Bruce\_D\_Arcus1](https://discourse.citationstyles.org/u/Bruce_D_Arcus1)\
**Post date:** [March 18, 2011, 2:30pm UTC](https://discourse.citationstyles.org/t/embedded-csl-fields-in-mendeley-word-oo-documents/968/21 "2011-03-18T14:30:51Z")

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What “schema” are you referring to here?

Bruce

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**Author:** ![Steve\_Ridout](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a4c791/32.png) [@Steve\_Ridout](https://discourse.citationstyles.org/u/Steve_Ridout)\
**Post date:** [March 18, 2011, 2:40pm UTC](https://discourse.citationstyles.org/t/embedded-csl-fields-in-mendeley-word-oo-documents/968/22 "2011-03-18T14:40:15Z")

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I mean the schema for this JSON that we’re embedding in the Word processor  
documents.

Rintze suggested using a URL/URI instead of just using a version number.

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**Author:** ![Rintze\_Zelle](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex029/user_avatar/discourse.citationstyles.org/rintze_zelle/32/175_2.png) [@Rintze\_Zelle](https://discourse.citationstyles.org/u/Rintze_Zelle)\
**Post date:** [March 18, 2011, 3:07pm UTC](https://discourse.citationstyles.org/t/embedded-csl-fields-in-mendeley-word-oo-documents/968/23 "2011-03-18T15:07:47Z")

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I guess eventually we’ll want to supply two JSON schemas for CSL. A core  
schema for item metadata (the contents of “itemData” in your example\*), and  
a broader schema for citation objects (the contents of “CslCitation”). Also,  
it would be nice if the URIs of these schemas would be resolvable. I think  
Bruce is a proponent of moving all CSL development to github, so maybe we  
can use URIs similar to those of the CSL styles. But I’m not sure what those  
will look like.

Rintze

- a start has been made for this one:  
[https://github.com/citation-style-language/schema/blob/master/csl-data.jsonOn](https://github.com/citation-style-language/schema/blob/master/csl-data.jsonOn) Fri, Mar 18, 2011 at 6:50 AM, Steve Ridout \<@Steve\_Ridout\>wrote:

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**Author:** ![Bruce\_D\_Arcus1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4bbf92/32.png) [@Bruce\_D\_Arcus1](https://discourse.citationstyles.org/u/Bruce_D_Arcus1)\
**Post date:** [March 18, 2011, 3:15pm UTC](https://discourse.citationstyles.org/t/embedded-csl-fields-in-mendeley-word-oo-documents/968/24 "2011-03-18T15:15:09Z")

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Yeah, it seems that one can use the URI id to resolve linked schemas,  
so this is why Rintze used a schema id with a github base:

[https://github.com/citation-style-language/schema/raw/master/csl-data.json](https://github.com/citation-style-language/schema/raw/master/csl-data.json)

So I’d say you guys could submit it here with a similar id if you like.

I don’t have a strong opinion though.

I do think at some point we need to look at tweaks the schema. For  
example, I’d prefer to move to using ISO/EDTF for the date  
representation when it’s ready.

Bruce

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**Author:** ![Robert\_Knight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ba9def/32.png) [@Robert\_Knight](https://discourse.citationstyles.org/u/Robert_Knight)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2011, 8:21pm UTC](https://discourse.citationstyles.org/t/embedded-csl-fields-in-mendeley-word-oo-documents/968/25 "2011-06-25T20:21:47Z")

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Hello,

As a heads-up, this is now included in the recent development preview\*  
release of Mendeley.

Regards,  
Rob.

- [http://www.mendeley.com/blog/progress-update/mendeley-desktop-1-0-development-preview-released](http://www.mendeley.com/blog/progress-update/mendeley-desktop-1-0-development-preview-released)

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**Author:** ![Bruce\_D\_Arcus1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4bbf92/32.png) [@Bruce\_D\_Arcus1](https://discourse.citationstyles.org/u/Bruce_D_Arcus1)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2011, 9:13pm UTC](https://discourse.citationstyles.org/t/embedded-csl-fields-in-mendeley-word-oo-documents/968/26 "2011-06-25T21:13:21Z")

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Cool!

Particularly once Zotero is implementing the same thing (is it yet?),  
it might be worth trumpeting this as rather more open than Endnote’s  
equivalent. E.g. this:

“The Word and OpenOffice plugins now store a mini-library of cited  
publications inside your documents. When updating a Word document,  
Mendeley Desktop can import citations from the Word document back into  
your Mendeley library if necessary (for example, if you cited a  
publication which has subsequently been removed from your library).”

… sounds like marketing material on Endnote from the 1990s 😉

How about adding something like:

“The citation data is stored in an open and documented format [insert  
link], which opens the door to sharing documents among collaborators  
using different references managers that support the same format.  
Mendeley puts a high priority on both your data and the documents you  
create with it being as open as possible.”

E.g. you’ve done the work towards that end, so market it.

Bruce

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