# dumb question of locales files

**URL:** <https://discourse.citationstyles.org/t/dumb-question-of-locales-files/870>\
**Category:** CSL Development\
**Created:** [July 14, 2010, 4:44pm UTC](https://discourse.citationstyles.org/t/dumb-question-of-locales-files/870 "2010-07-14T16:44:52Z")\
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**Author:** ![Bruce\_D\_Arcus1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4bbf92/32.png) [@Bruce\_D\_Arcus1](https://discourse.citationstyles.org/u/Bruce_D_Arcus1)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2010, 4:44pm UTC](https://discourse.citationstyles.org/t/dumb-question-of-locales-files/870/1 "2010-07-14T16:44:52Z")

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I’m forgetting the details of where we’re at on locales:

Someone emails me and wants to submit a translation. How best to do that?

Bruce

PS - We should add this to a FAQ?

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**Author:** ![Rintze\_Zelle](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex029/user_avatar/discourse.citationstyles.org/rintze_zelle/32/175_2.png) [@Rintze\_Zelle](https://discourse.citationstyles.org/u/Rintze_Zelle)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2010, 5:43pm UTC](https://discourse.citationstyles.org/t/dumb-question-of-locales-files/870/2 "2010-07-14T17:43:06Z")

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It’s a little bit complicated. The CSL 1.0 locale files at  
[http://bitbucket.org/bdarcus/csl-locales/src/tip/trunk/](http://bitbucket.org/bdarcus/csl-locales/src/tip/trunk/) were prepared from  
the CSL 0.8 locale files I pulled down from the Zotero SVN a few months ago  
(which in turn are periodically updated when the CSL 0.8 locale files  
uploaded at Babelzilla have changed). There might be some recent  
translations made to the 0.8 BabelZilla files that haven’t yet been synced  
to the 1.0 files (I haven’t checked). Otherwise, the CSL 1.0 locale files  
should be ready to be pushed to BabelZilla, where Zotero translators can  
contribute to new translations.

In answer to your question: if the locale translation is complete, you could  
commit it directly to the trunk directory (like I did for the Dutch locale:  
[http://bitbucket.org/bdarcus/csl-locales/changeset/ffe5605c20d8](http://bitbucket.org/bdarcus/csl-locales/changeset/ffe5605c20d8) )

Rintze

P.S. Note that I wrote some translation instructions for the CSL 1.0 locale  
files a while back:  
[http://bitbucket.org/bdarcus/csl-locales/wiki/Information\_for\_BabelZilla\_translators](http://bitbucket.org/bdarcus/csl-locales/wiki/Information_for_BabelZilla_translators)

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**Author:** ![Dan\_Stillman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ecb155/32.png) [@Dan\_Stillman](https://discourse.citationstyles.org/u/Dan_Stillman)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2010, 5:55pm UTC](https://discourse.citationstyles.org/t/dumb-question-of-locales-files/870/3 "2010-07-14T17:55:56Z")

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It’s unlikely that we’re going to push CSL 1.0 locale files to  
BabelZilla. BZ has a great community of users but is technically a huge  
pain to deal with—and that’s for the Firefox locale files it’s  
actually designed for. CSL locale files, as arbitrary XML files, are  
even more difficult. We’re probably going to stop using BZ altogether  
and build our own localization tool, but the CSL locale files should  
probably be maintained separately anyway.

In any case, for now people should just make CSL locale changes directly  
to the Zotero SVN and/or Bitbucket.

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**Author:** ![Rintze\_Zelle1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/258eb7/32.png) [@Rintze\_Zelle1](https://discourse.citationstyles.org/u/Rintze_Zelle1)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2010, 6:23pm UTC](https://discourse.citationstyles.org/t/dumb-question-of-locales-files/870/4 "2010-07-14T18:23:35Z")

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Is it easy to remove the CSL locale files from BabelZilla? Then I won’t have  
to worry anymore about merging changes made at BabelZilla to the Bitbucket  
repository. I also wouldn’t want to disappoint BabelZilla translators by  
ignoring any of their (future) translations.

Rintze

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**Author:** ![Dan\_Stillman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ecb155/32.png) [@Dan\_Stillman](https://discourse.citationstyles.org/u/Dan_Stillman)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2010, 6:31pm UTC](https://discourse.citationstyles.org/t/dumb-question-of-locales-files/870/5 "2010-07-14T18:31:11Z")

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It’s not easy to do anything on BabelZilla. I’d recommend just posting a  
note in the thread saying that no further CSL translations will be  
merged. There’s not much left to translate, anyway.

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**Author:** ![Bruce\_D\_Arcus1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4bbf92/32.png) [@Bruce\_D\_Arcus1](https://discourse.citationstyles.org/u/Bruce_D_Arcus1)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2010, 6:38pm UTC](https://discourse.citationstyles.org/t/dumb-question-of-locales-files/870/6 "2010-07-14T18:38:44Z")

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The prompt I got was asking about Estonian (they said there isn’t one).

Bruce

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**Author:** ![Rintze\_Zelle1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/258eb7/32.png) [@Rintze\_Zelle1](https://discourse.citationstyles.org/u/Rintze_Zelle1)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2010, 7:29pm UTC](https://discourse.citationstyles.org/t/dumb-question-of-locales-files/870/7 "2010-07-14T19:29:42Z")

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There is an Estonian locale file, but it seems untranslated:

[http://bitbucket.org/bdarcus/csl-locales/src/tip/trunk/locales-et-EE.xml](http://bitbucket.org/bdarcus/csl-locales/src/tip/trunk/locales-et-EE.xml)

Rintze

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**Author:** ![Rintze\_Zelle1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/258eb7/32.png) [@Rintze\_Zelle1](https://discourse.citationstyles.org/u/Rintze_Zelle1)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2010, 7:38pm UTC](https://discourse.citationstyles.org/t/dumb-question-of-locales-files/870/8 "2010-07-14T19:38:07Z")

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I just checked, and the locales.xml files already seem to have been removed  
from BabelZilla (not sure this is a recent change).

Rintze

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**Author:** ![Dan\_Stillman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ecb155/32.png) [@Dan\_Stillman](https://discourse.citationstyles.org/u/Dan_Stillman)\
**Post date:** [July 15, 2010, 12:09am UTC](https://discourse.citationstyles.org/t/dumb-question-of-locales-files/870/9 "2010-07-15T00:09:51Z")

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Yeah, that’s not recent (nor was it intentional, which is kind of the  
point).

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**Author:** ![Bruce\_D\_Arcus1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4bbf92/32.png) [@Bruce\_D\_Arcus1](https://discourse.citationstyles.org/u/Bruce_D_Arcus1)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2010, 9:18pm UTC](https://discourse.citationstyles.org/t/dumb-question-of-locales-files/870/10 "2010-07-16T21:18:41Z")

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So should I ask them to try to edit that and send me a patch?

Bruce

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**Author:** ![Rintze\_Zelle1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/258eb7/32.png) [@Rintze\_Zelle1](https://discourse.citationstyles.org/u/Rintze_Zelle1)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2010, 5:32am UTC](https://discourse.citationstyles.org/t/dumb-question-of-locales-files/870/11 "2010-07-17T05:32:08Z")

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Sure, but just the translated file would work as well. I modified the  
translation instructions somewhat to remove the references to BabelZilla:

[http://bitbucket.org/bdarcus/csl-locales/wiki/Information\_for\_translators](http://bitbucket.org/bdarcus/csl-locales/wiki/Information_for_translators)

Rintze