# delimiter for names

**URL:** <https://discourse.citationstyles.org/t/delimiter-for-names/201>\
**Category:** CSL Development\
**Created:** [August 23, 2006, 3:26pm UTC](https://discourse.citationstyles.org/t/delimiter-for-names/201 "2006-08-23T15:26:03Z")\
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**Author:** ![Johan\_Kool2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/cab0a1/32.png) [@Johan\_Kool2](https://discourse.citationstyles.org/u/Johan_Kool2)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2006, 3:26pm UTC](https://discourse.citationstyles.org/t/delimiter-for-names/201/1 "2006-08-23T15:26:03Z")

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Hello,

All the csl files now don’t specify the delimiter for an author (or  
contributor), so it got me confused. I think this stems from the  
meaning of the tag:

```
     <author suffix=", "/>

```

I always read it as:

```
 <group prefix="" suffix=", " delimiter="">
	 <author/>
 </group>

```

But am I correct that instead the right meaning is:

```
 <group prefix="" suffix="" delimiter=", ">
	 <author/>
 </group>

```

Similarly when is defined:

```
<defaults>
	<author>
 		<name suffix=", " />
	</author>
</defaults>

```

Btw, when is defined:

```
<contributor name-as-sort-order="no">
	<name and="symbol" initialize-with="."/>
	<label term-set="roles-short" prefix=", " text- 

```

transform=“capitalize”/\>

Does the label then come after every name, or only after the last one?

Johan—  
[http://www.johankool.nl/](http://www.johankool.nl/)

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**Author:** ![Bruce\_D\_Arcus1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4bbf92/32.png) [@Bruce\_D\_Arcus1](https://discourse.citationstyles.org/u/Bruce_D_Arcus1)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2006, 4:01pm UTC](https://discourse.citationstyles.org/t/delimiter-for-names/201/2 "2006-08-23T16:01:56Z")

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First, let me just say that classes started this week (and I have a  
house guest), so I’ve not had much time to focus on this. But quickly  
…

> All the csl files now don’t specify the delimiter for an author (or  
> contributor), so it got me confused. I think this stems from the  
> meaning of the tag:
> 
> ```
> <author suffix=", "/>
> 
> ```
> 
> I always read it as:

That’s how I read it.

> But am I correct that instead the right meaning is:

No. Perhaps there’s just a bug in the styles.

> Btw, when is defined:
> 
> Does the label then come after every name, or only after the last one?

The latter. I suppose it might be more clear if we used “names” or  
“name-list” instead of the singular?

Bruce

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**Author:** ![Johan\_Kool2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/cab0a1/32.png) [@Johan\_Kool2](https://discourse.citationstyles.org/u/Johan_Kool2)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2006, 2:00pm UTC](https://discourse.citationstyles.org/t/delimiter-for-names/201/3 "2006-08-24T14:00:54Z")

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> I suppose it might be more clear if we used “names” or “name-list”  
> instead of the singular?

I think that would be a good idea. Not just name → names but also  
author → authors etc. of course.

Johan

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**Author:** ![Bruce\_D\_Arcus1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4bbf92/32.png) [@Bruce\_D\_Arcus1](https://discourse.citationstyles.org/u/Bruce_D_Arcus1)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2006, 4:40pm UTC](https://discourse.citationstyles.org/t/delimiter-for-names/201/4 "2006-08-26T16:40:06Z")

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OK, there’s a proposal on the table to change:

1. cs:name to cs:names

2. cs:author/cs:editor/cs:translator/cs:publisher to plural also

note: the last may seem weird, but there can be more than one  
publisher, so we’d need it for consistency.

Please vote on each of these separately.

Bruce

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**Author:** ![Johan\_Kool2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/cab0a1/32.png) [@Johan\_Kool2](https://discourse.citationstyles.org/u/Johan_Kool2)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2006, 2:21pm UTC](https://discourse.citationstyles.org/t/delimiter-for-names/201/5 "2006-08-27T14:21:10Z")

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+1 for both.

Johan

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**Author:** ![Simon\_Kornblith](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ce7236/32.png) [@Simon\_Kornblith](https://discourse.citationstyles.org/u/Simon_Kornblith)\
**Post date:** [August 28, 2006, 3:44pm UTC](https://discourse.citationstyles.org/t/delimiter-for-names/201/6 "2006-08-28T15:44:02Z")

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+1 for names, abstain for authors/editors/translators/etc.

Simon