# Custom year-suffix-delimiters

**URL:** <https://discourse.citationstyles.org/t/custom-year-suffix-delimiters/583>\
**Category:** CSL Development\
**Created:** [March 26, 2009, 7:38pm UTC](https://discourse.citationstyles.org/t/custom-year-suffix-delimiters/583 "2009-03-26T19:38:16Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 5\
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**Author:** ![Frank\_Bennett](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex029/user_avatar/discourse.citationstyles.org/frank_bennett/32/198_2.png) [@Frank\_Bennett](https://discourse.citationstyles.org/u/Frank_Bennett)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2009, 12:00pm UTC](https://discourse.citationstyles.org/t/custom-year-suffix-delimiters/583/21 "2009-04-07T12:00:06Z")

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> > More complexity:  
> > [http://groups.google.com/group/zotero-dev/browse\_thread/thread/674585c991cc8e11](http://groups.google.com/group/zotero-dev/browse_thread/thread/674585c991cc8e11)
> > 
> > “I’m trying to create a new style which uses only the start page [ed:from a  
> > page range].”
> 
> Glad to see this, actually, it’s required by Bluebook. You could  
> maybe just do something like:
> 
> ?
> 
> > > Just to add some complexity, maybe this should be handled in CSL as well:  
> > > [#1083 (Defect in IEEE CSL with Multiple Citations) – Zotero](https://www.zotero.org/trac/ticket/1083)
> > > 
> > > “For better or worse IEEE wants brackets to work in a different way than  
> > > the CSL suggests.  
> > > Multiple citations must appear like [1]-[5], not like [1-5].”
> 
> Looks like maybe a case for multiple collapse values …

Sorry, just realized that this one should already work it’s just:  
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versus  
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The “range-part” thing still looks like an issue, though.

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**Author:** ![Rintze\_Zelle](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex029/user_avatar/discourse.citationstyles.org/rintze_zelle/32/175_2.png) [@Rintze\_Zelle](https://discourse.citationstyles.org/u/Rintze_Zelle)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2009, 1:18pm UTC](https://discourse.citationstyles.org/t/custom-year-suffix-delimiters/583/22 "2009-04-07T13:18:26Z")

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(smacking forehead) I totally overlooked that option. I’ll fix the  
Zotero ticket ASAP.  
Rintze

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**Author:** ![Bruce\_D\_Arcus1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4bbf92/32.png) [@Bruce\_D\_Arcus1](https://discourse.citationstyles.org/u/Bruce_D_Arcus1)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2009, 1:30pm UTC](https://discourse.citationstyles.org/t/custom-year-suffix-delimiters/583/23 "2009-04-07T13:30:32Z")

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I’ve not read this thread flurry, but wanted to note that it just  
occurred to me that perhaps we don’t need a "year-suffix-delimiter"  
option. Reason: the delimiter in question is actually the year  
delimiter; it’s just the years get collapsed.

Right?

Bruce

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**Author:** ![Frank\_Bennett](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex029/user_avatar/discourse.citationstyles.org/frank_bennett/32/198_2.png) [@Frank\_Bennett](https://discourse.citationstyles.org/u/Frank_Bennett)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2009, 2:48pm UTC](https://discourse.citationstyles.org/t/custom-year-suffix-delimiters/583/24 "2009-04-07T14:48:25Z")

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> I’ve not read this thread flurry, but wanted to note that it just  
> occurred to me that perhaps we don’t need a “year-suffix-delimiter”  
> option. Reason: the delimiter in question is actually the year  
> delimiter; it’s just the years get collapsed.

When the years collapse in a suffixed cite, there’s nothing but the  
suffix to delimit. I think it’s best described as a year-suffix  
delimiter, it’s just a question of whether it should be specified with  
an option or on the text element that renders the year-suffix. I  
don’t think it belongs on the date, because it’s gone away if the  
special delimiter is used. This seems to work. Is there a problem  
with readability?

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**Author:** ![Rintze\_Zelle](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex029/user_avatar/discourse.citationstyles.org/rintze_zelle/32/175_2.png) [@Rintze\_Zelle](https://discourse.citationstyles.org/u/Rintze_Zelle)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2009, 7:32pm UTC](https://discourse.citationstyles.org/t/custom-year-suffix-delimiters/583/25 "2009-04-07T19:32:33Z")

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Testing this, I discovered this is an issue with the current Zotero CSL  
processor (the collapse-dash incorrectly takes priority over the prefix and  
suffix specified in the text element). I added a new test to make  
implementing this slightly easier.

Rintze

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