# CSL Agenda 2016

**URL:** <https://discourse.citationstyles.org/t/csl-agenda-2016/1272>\
**Category:** CSL Development\
**Created:** [November 14, 2015, 5:47am UTC](https://discourse.citationstyles.org/t/csl-agenda-2016/1272 "2015-11-14T05:47:35Z")\
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**Author:** ![Sebastian\_Karcher](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex029/user_avatar/discourse.citationstyles.org/sebastian_karcher/32/176_2.png) [@Sebastian\_Karcher](https://discourse.citationstyles.org/u/Sebastian_Karcher)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2015, 5:47am UTC](https://discourse.citationstyles.org/t/csl-agenda-2016/1272/1 "2015-11-14T05:47:35Z")

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Hi everyone,

Bruce, Frank, Rintze, and I met this Monday to discuss the current state of  
CSL. This is the first of two e-mails summarizing our discussion, which is  
meant as a basis for a broader discussion here on the list. In this e-mail  
I’ll talk about CSL infrastructure, the second one will be about CSL  
specifications/updates.

1. Moving style hosting to [www.citationstyles.org](http://www.citationstyles.org)  
We’d like to transition from [zotero.org](http://zotero.org) style ids, and offer both a GUI  
version of the style repository on [citationstyles.org](http://citationstyles.org) and serve styles from  
there (e.g. for auto-updating). We think this should be the top priority  
for 2016  
We’ll want a proper hosting solution for this and, if clients will want to  
rely on our site (rather than pulling from github the way Zotero & Mendeley  
currently do) for style updates. We also will want to hire someone to do  
this for us. (Elsevier/Mendeley has already announced they’ll again support  
us, so we have a budget). Sylvester suggested someone to us, but if anyone  
here is interested or has recommendations, that’d be very welcome, too.  
Also, for any of the downstream users of the style–will a global change in  
style ids cause major headaches? Is there anything we can/should do to make  
the transition go smoothly?

2. Moving away from sourceforge  
Rintze has mentioned this before, but we’d like to look at moving away from  
sourceforge, which is increasingly spammy, sometimes unreliable, and of an  
uncertain future. We’re thinking most likely [www.discourse.org](http://www.discourse.org), with a paid  
hosting solution, but are open to alternatives. Also, we want to make sure  
that there’s a way to get data out of Discourse before switching.

We won’t be able to transfer the list archive to discourse easily, but  
it’ll keep existing on [nabble.com](http://nabble.com)

1. Achievements & Miscellanea:

- Sylvester built us a nice bot that’s currently screening pull requests  
and displaying greeting messages as well as pass/fail follow-ups for pull  
requests. It’s working nicely.
- As some of you may have seen, we have, with the agreement of the folks  
from Mendeley and Columbia Lib, moved the CSL visual editor into the  
citation-style-language github and have successfully updated styles and  
locales. At least for now, it seems easy enough to maintain that I’ll be  
able to handle that, thanks to Steve Ridout’s great documentation and  
coding of that project.
- We’ll also slightly reorganize repositories which contain lists of  
journals and styles by publishers for dependent styles and try to get these  
updated as soon as possible. Anyone who wants in on that (checking with  
publishers, tracking down new lists etc.) help would be very welcome.

OK. That’s it for infrastructure I believe. Please do chime in with  
concerns, disagreement, praise, or other ideas/priorities.

Specification e-mail to follow later this weekend.  
Best,  
Sebastian–  
Sebastian Karcher, PhD  
[www.sebastiankarcher.com](http://www.sebastiankarcher.com)

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**Author:** ![Matej\_Cepl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e480ec/32.png) [@Matej\_Cepl](https://discourse.citationstyles.org/u/Matej_Cepl)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2015, 7:12am UTC](https://discourse.citationstyles.org/t/csl-agenda-2016/1272/2 "2015-11-14T07:12:12Z")

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Please, do not forget to update gmane.text.xml.xbiblio.devel as  
well.

Best,

Matěj

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**Author:** ![Rintze\_Zelle](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex029/user_avatar/discourse.citationstyles.org/rintze_zelle/32/175_2.png) [@Rintze\_Zelle](https://discourse.citationstyles.org/u/Rintze_Zelle)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2015, 2:28am UTC](https://discourse.citationstyles.org/t/csl-agenda-2016/1272/3 "2015-11-15T02:28:09Z")

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Matěj, what do you mean exactly with “update  
gmane.text.xml.xbiblio.devel”? Update how?

Also, is there any particular reason you’re attached to the Gmane  
archive? Its archive of the mailing list only goes back to 2011,  
whereas the Nabble mirror goes back all the way back to 2004 (which  
was done by manually uploading the mbox archive from SourceForge:  
[http://support.nabble.com/Import-request-td5922233.html](http://support.nabble.com/Import-request-td5922233.html)). I’m also the  
current administrator of the Nabble mirror, while I don’t know who  
controls the Gmane one.

Rintze