# Conference proceeding

**URL:** <https://discourse.citationstyles.org/t/conference-proceeding/1085>\
**Category:** CSL Development\
**Created:** [March 29, 2012, 5:59am UTC](https://discourse.citationstyles.org/t/conference-proceeding/1085 "2012-03-29T05:59:03Z")\
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**Author:** ![Charles\_Parnot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/57b2e6/32.png) [@Charles\_Parnot](https://discourse.citationstyles.org/u/Charles_Parnot)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2012, 5:59am UTC](https://discourse.citationstyles.org/t/conference-proceeding/1085/1 "2012-03-29T05:59:03Z")

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Hi guys,

I have another question, for which I could not find a clear answer from the specs or from googling around. I noticed that Papers2 outputs the title of the conference twice for ‘paper-conference’ type of entry (which we call conference proceeding). The variable ‘container-title’ and ‘event’ both return the name of the conference in our CSL translation layer, and then both are output by the APA style. It would seem ‘event’ should be the only one to return, but then one can end up with volume info etc… without a corresponding title. There is also a bit of a confusion between the presentation itself, which happens at the conference, and the proceeding printed into a specific paper volume.

I am thus for now assuming ‘paper-conference’ should only return a value for the ‘event’ variable, but I’d be interested to hear your comment and suggestions.

Thanks very much!

Charles–  
Charles Parnot  
@Charles_Parnot  
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**Author:** ![Frank\_Bennett](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex029/user_avatar/discourse.citationstyles.org/frank_bennett/32/198_2.png) [@Frank\_Bennett](https://discourse.citationstyles.org/u/Frank_Bennett)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2012, 8:04am UTC](https://discourse.citationstyles.org/t/conference-proceeding/1085/2 "2012-03-29T08:04:58Z")

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> Hi guys,
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> I have another question, for which I could not find a clear answer from the specs or from googling around. I noticed that Papers2 outputs the title of the conference twice for ‘paper-conference’ type of entry (which we call conference proceeding). The variable ‘container-title’ and ‘event’ both return the name of the conference in our CSL translation layer, and then both are output by the APA style. It would seem ‘event’ should be the only one to return, but then one can end up with volume info etc… without a corresponding title. There is also a bit of a confusion between the presentation itself, which happens at the conference, and the proceeding printed into a specific paper volume.

The paper-conference type is hard – there are at least three possible  
forms, which could differ considerably in form. I’ve adopted a  
solution in the MLZ styles that (I think) will be relatively easy to  
document, and can express the various roles in a uniform way. See what  
you think – comments very welcome.

[http://citationstylist.org/proofsheets/conference-papers/](http://citationstylist.org/proofsheets/conference-papers/)

Frank

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**Author:** ![Charles\_Parnot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/57b2e6/32.png) [@Charles\_Parnot](https://discourse.citationstyles.org/u/Charles_Parnot)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2012, 9:10pm UTC](https://discourse.citationstyles.org/t/conference-proceeding/1085/3 "2012-04-01T21:10:54Z")

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Hi Frank,

Thanks very much for the info, this is extremely useful! I will likely have some follow-up questions/comments on that web page, but need more time to think about it.

Charles