citation style for Tweets

Hi,

The MLA is introducing a new format for Tweets. Would this require a
new Type in CSL?

  • Ian

Hi,

The MLA is introducing a new format for Tweets. Would this require a
new Type in CSL?

http://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2012/03/how-do-you-cite-a-tweet-in-an-academic-paper/253932/

  • Ian

No need for a new type, but (off the top of my head) applications will
need a means of recording the time, cs:date will need to be able to
handle it, and cs:if and cs:else-if will need to be able to test for
the presence of a time on the date object.

Frank

Man that’s a really dumb format the MLA is adding. Why no URL? Why
privilege Twitter?

To your point, we could cover it with the existing generic “document” type.

Why no URL?

For direct Tweet links, I’m not sure that would be all that useful -
it seems quite likely to me that a URL issued in 2012 will not work
5 years hence. A combination of name + keywords + date on the other
hand can be used as a search query.

Regards,
Rob.

Is it reasonable to assume all tweets will be available in five years such
that one can find them?

BTW, don’t we have CSL “post”? If yes, that’d work.

I think ‘post’ would be perfect.

It’s very interesting that the entire tweet is contained in the
citation. I guess it means that there is no need for a link, as the
content of the tweet is already expressed fully in the citation.

  • Ian

Oh, I missed that it includes the content. That’s definitely a bit more
sensible.

OTOH, I don’t think we have a variable appropriate to that.

See my comment on that thread - APA and CMoS have provided guidelines
for that already:

APA:
BarackObama. (2009a, July 15). Launched American Graduation Initiative
to help additional 5 mill. Americans graduate college by 2020:
http://bit.ly/gcTX7 [Twitter post]. Retrieved from
http://twitter.com/BarackObama/status/2651151366

CMoS:
2. Garrett Kiely, Twitter post, September 14, 2011, 8:50 a.m.,
http://twitter.com/gkiely.

I’m not inclined to worry much about this - we might want to look at
having a “type/genre” field available as “post” gets implemented (it’s
not currently in Zotero, hence not in any citation style) to include
"Tweet" (really MLA???) or “Twitter Post”.

@bruce: did you mean which CSL variable to use for the content of the tweet? Wouldn’t the title field be all we need?

@bruce: did you mean which CSL variable to use for the content of the tweet? Wouldn’t the title field be all we need?

I suppose. But it does abuse the meaning of title a bit.

Zotero’s Twitter translator already uses the title field for the content.
It uses type blogpost- not sure what that maps to in the CSL world.

Avram

blogpost currently maps to webpage in Zotero (and so that’s how it’s
implemented in styles) - we could think about changing that to post or
weblog-post (though do we really need both of these types to existing
in csl?

I think this example demonstrates that yes, we do need both.

Or, if we want to contemplate cutting one, it should be the narrower
one (“weblog-post”).

Bruce